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AndyM wrote:If you don't care about Trump's views or policies as leader then there's really no morality or meaning to your support for him (other than seeing others lose).
This to me is the definition of nihilism.It's a digression but the "progressive Left" and their embracing of postmodernism can also be seen as nihilistic so it's interesting.
The best part is we’re both Australian so your or my options are just that.
MAGA
the democrats deserve to lose just for the border mess they created
almost 3 mil people in the last 12 months, same the year before
the forced border 'policies' ie. overiding local government and border security
the hotel bills for tax payers
the pure lawlessness of it all
the messyness of street camps
and worst of all... the denial of it all
the pure gaslighting of the public... hate that overused term, but it is most fitting in this case...
none of it makes any sense at all
it is all just bizarre
a senseless suicidal manouvure from my perspective
fuck maga
but fuck democrats even more
Burleigh I'm not putting forward any opinions of mine but I'm genuinely wondering what you see Trump achieving as president.
And no, that's not a loaded question.
Actually, I will put forward an opinion - the whole system needs a shakeup and Trump could be seen as playing a part in that.
I'm persuaded by the Slovenian philosopher Slavoj Žižek, who a few years ago wrote that in America you can either have Make America Great Again or you can have Make Oligarchic America Great Again depending on your party of choice.
The Democrats are a hoax and a sellout to the working class, and no amount of talk of abortion and transgender rights and racism can cover this anymore.
The Left and the Democrats have a large rift a.k.a a class struggle in progress.
And Trump was one of the catalysts for this.
My hope is that if Trump gets back in, this will speed up and finalise this cultural/ideological/economic struggle and a real Left will emerge.
Without this radicalising effect, I see that the New Left will continue to wallow in the trappings of woke politics and continue to get steamrolled by neoliberalism.
And until the Left around the world wakes up, we'll continue to get fucked around by populists and demagogues.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-hillary-clinton-populist-righ...
and joe biden...
its an insult of the highest order to portray him as ok to the public
its embarrasing for the whole western world
trump is a super villain
sadly, he seems the only thing capable of the much needed clean out popd talks of...
it truly is miraculous what he achieved with the whole system working against him - both parties!
'permanent washington' is broken beyond repair
burning the whole thing down is the only solution
Politically and socially America is a basket case and the only way THEY seem to think it can be fixed is vote for Trump….thats not my opinion but I think it’s theirs…voting for trump is a “ burn down everything and start again” .scenario…
They miss the old America and you can’t blame them because the new one is shit.
Hopefully Nikki will hang in there and get in by default if trump gets locked up , but , the most important thing she should do is give trump a full pardon the day she gets in as president to stop any backlash and civil unrest.
Trump cannot be locked up for long or else that will kill America with unrest.
Nikki seems a good person and by far the best choice but I wish she’d stop flappin her arms around every time she speaks like a good wog does.
No need for Air Force 1 as with all that flappin she could fly there herself.
Hopefully the cowboys will embrace the Indians this time and choose a good president.
Andy
Trump at least can speak and makes lots of speeches to the American people about what he wants to do , for THEM .
They will definitely listen 2 HIS policies , this time .
I will only , try 2 , judge his previous term ( his policies don't change 2 much ) on matters that affect Australia .
He highlighted China as a threat !
Told NATO to get serious about their defence spending .
Didn't start a War in the Middle East ( was sure he was going to bomb something ,was thinking Iranian Nuke facilities with the IDF ).
Said , We are Out of Kabul ( would not have left all the stuff there ) .
Made the US self sufficient on Energy and took power from OPEC .
Putin took Trump seriously , Biden ? , seriously !
Trump likes Australia (. think Subs ) .
That's enough for me , as an Australian .
The US will be given a choice .
They will decide who is the Best person , of ONLY 2 .
I know Trump ( ATM ) is the Republican , Option .
I have NFI who the Democrats will Offer as their option .
They won't give their people 2 long to really check out ( test ) their choice .
They don't to have their policies debated much .
He or She , will pop Up , in August .
I have seen a Prediction ( not a Poll ) from a source I rate very highly , so have mentioned before .
Trump to WIN , 59% plus , and makes NO difference What is thrown at him .
The definition of a " Landslide " in the old , USofA .
The ONLY question is , does he GET to run ?
saw an interesting poll analysis
the vast majority of americans do not want a trump v biden rematch
when biden is pitted against an alternative candidate... he loses...
when trump is pitted against an alternative candidate... he loses...
yet the machine is offerinng another trump v biden rematch
makes no sense
A lot of the manoeuvres happening with the Republicans and Trump has a lot to do with going forward. MAGA is more a movement and about taking control of the party for the future…it’s really about hard right politics and the dumbfucks that make up the rank and file MAGA crew are being played by Trump and a few others in the party. It is about capturing control and holding on to that control.
MAGA scream and shout a lot and are vocal so are seen and people equate that with support. However, outside of the Dem party voters who won’t vote for a Republican, Trump is hated by woman and independents and blacks and unions (now) and farmers..he has fucked them all over.
The ARPA has done so much good for the USA. 9/10 million jobs created or something like that.
The UAW have labeled Trump a scab…400,000 active members, 580,000 retired members…they were Trump last election but are now Biden.
Farmers..got subsidies but say fuck that, we want to work and produce and farm like we should..Trump fucked them last time also.
Etc etc
Open borders letting anyone in….is the problem they can’t hide.
Sorry
Roady U are right .
Trump is trying 2 win the Presidency , which will give HIM control of the Most Powerful position in the World .
He had it once and was NOT able to exert FULL control .
The US people will vote , woman , blacks , whites ,etc young and old .
They want someone to take CONTROL away from the Swamp and give it BACK to who THEY vote in !!!
The USA is , Out of Control .
Unfortunately , u didn't get 2 right and are wrong on 1 .
roady , IF Trump wins , HE can't EVER get the job again !
Only 2 Terms , in the US .
We don't share the same sense of humour either , roady , it seems . See below .
Just for giggles..I would suggest listening to Michael Cohen’s Mea Culpa podcast.
From Trump Lawyer and fixer to Trump hater. Great listening.
Pop Down wrote:Roady U are right .
Trump is trying 2 win the Presidency , which will give HIM control of the Most Powerful position in the World .
He had it once and was NOT able to exert FULL control .
The US people will vote , woman , blacks , whites ,etc young and old .
They want someone to take CONTROL away from the Swamp and give it BACK to who THEY vote in !!!
The USA is , Out of Control .
Unfortunately , u didn't get 2 right and are wrong on 1 .
roady , IF Trump wins , HE can't EVER get the job again !
Only 2 Terms , in the US .
We don't share the same sense of humour either , roady , it seems . See below .
I have no idea what ever you are trying to say. But you obviously didn’t understand what I posted.
Roady
It is the US People , who vote every 4 years , who should CONTROL their OWN destiny .
They exert this control by giving the Job of President .
The President gets control for 4 years ( Can ONLY do it TWICE ) .
Hoping the Capital Letters are helping .
It's like our PM gets control , and we can toss him out .
A Democracy !!!
Michele Obama may be the democrat Option .
Trumps past is ALL on the table .
Unproven allegations eg Barak's past sex rumours, should NEVER be brought Up imo !!!
Debating morality is a receipt for disaster !!!
Macca , Bernie was robbed and could have been great ( maybe like Whitlam and had the Power of the Fed ( no money worries for 4 years ) .
Trump didn't win the election , Hillary lost it .
If only Bernie Sanders got the nomination instead of Hilary ey....
Who ever wins, reckon USA still in decline and will be lucky to stay united.
It's nuts all round.
Just on the UAW endorsement, the head honcho Shaun Fain said, “Let me be clear about this: A great majority of our members will not vote for president Biden…. The majority of our members are going to vote their paychecks, they’re going to vote for an economy that works for them.”
Andy
Made a few comments above .
The US has declined as a Nation , spiritually , since Kennedy assignation .
Johnson won in a Landslide .
Probably some natural cycle stuff .
The issues that affect the US voter are almost the same as here .
Same in Europe .
Young People are pouring into the US .
A Single challenger for Financial dominance is not on my horizon .
Their Economy as a whole , will not go down much , over the next 20 years .
Some groups may grow faster but won't ever have the MIGHT of a Combined US .
Sounds quite sensible to spit it Up .
People can choose which system they want to live in .
It will be a Good , friendly separation .
They will want to show the World they won't fight , again .
The Three Countries can ALL write NEW Constitutions and show what they , as a country , Stands 4 .
The US doesn't worry me much .
The Middle East , not 2 much .
China , less and less .
Russia , not at all .
I worry about Europe , a lot .
An interesting perspective i heard the other day was that the Occupy Wall St movement scared the elites - the top 1% - a lot. Pitchfork and torch dreams spoiled their self assurance.
The focus of many groups and even some celebrities was firmly on the inequity, greed and grift / theft from the Wall St and political elite.
The response was divide and conquer. Create fractures in society so the serfs were too busy fighting each other to look up at the super rich ruling class (club / network). Racism, gender, BLM, left / right, wokey wokey weirdness all emerged as much bigger issues than ever before. Turbocharged by media owned by key club members.
Worked a treat.
But it has contributed to the US moving into semi chaotic decline and weakened social cohesion.
Bitter fruit.
Pop Down wrote:Roady
It is the US People , who vote every 4 years , who should CONTROL their OWN destiny .They exert this control by giving the Job of President .
The President gets control for 4 years ( Can ONLY do it TWICE ) .
Hoping the Capital Letters are helping .
It's like our PM gets control , and we can toss him out .
A Democracy !!!
Michele Obama may be the democrat Option .
Trumps past is ALL on the table .
Unproven allegations eg Barak's past sex rumours, should NEVER be brought Up imo !!!
Debating morality is a receipt for disaster !!!
Macca , Bernie was robbed and could have been great ( maybe like Whitlam and had the Power of the Fed ( no money worries for 4 years ) .
Trump didn't win the election , Hillary lost it .
Still the same, I have no idea what you are no about. I try but just can’t.
If , in August , Biden approves ALL illegal workers in the US , the right 2 vote , the US will explode .
Trump may not be ABLE to run .
If he runs against Biden , and Biden wins , the US will explode , 4 sure imho !
As advised , I will not , try and help , again, roady .
"My Party Is Completely Delusional": Dean Phillips Destroys Democrat Demagoguery Of Republicans After Attending Trump Rally
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/my-party-completely-delusional-dean-...
The Democratic Party is rabidly anti-democratic. This has been clear for decades, and has reached its zenith in the 2024 election: The DNC’s machine will destroy public figures supporting a 3rd party candidate, while refusing to put forward a competent candidate of their own. https://t.co/qmuoHZ9MCq
— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) January 30, 2024
To me this is clear: Bobby Kennedy Jr. is the best shot we have to pull the country and the West out of this nosedive.
— Bret Weinstein (@BretWeinstein) January 28, 2024
I see three reasons RFK Jr., rather than Trump, is the right man for the job.
The first is Time: Trump is old, and would only have four years to get us turned… pic.twitter.com/xMZ0UEtJUm
Agree with that.
frog wrote:An interesting perspective i heard the other day was that the Occupy Wall St movement scared the elites - the top 1% - a lot. Pitchfork and torch dreams spoiled their self assurance.
The focus of many groups and even some celebrities was firmly on the inequity, greed and grift / theft from the Wall St and political elite.
The response was divide and conquer. Create fractures in society so the serfs were too busy fighting each other to look up at the super rich ruling class (club / network). Racism, gender, BLM, left / right, wokey wokey weirdness all emerged as much bigger issues than ever before. Turbocharged by media owned by key club members.
Worked a treat.
But it has contributed to the US moving into semi chaotic decline and weakened social cohesion.
Bitter fruit.
Yep, I reckon you are on to something there.
Occupy had a sense of optimism about it, regarding change. The only change I sense now is negative and dangerous for USA .
I just hope Australia can avoid that extreme partisan shit although Dutton seems to be trying.
Compulsory voting is our saviour I guess.
…hmmmmm ;)
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US can't stop onselling of goods to Russia - just another US/NATO miscalculation.
… $ecurity $trategy ;);)
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Some compelling boat driving in this one
NEW: A follower just sent me this video from earlier today of a group of migrants on a boat reaching the shores of a beach in La Jolla , CA.
— Jorge Ventura Media (@VenturaReport) January 25, 2024
Once the migrants reached the shore they immediately start running into the neighborhood
Unclear at this time if this group of… pic.twitter.com/K6wSg8iJ0N
Hi Velocityjohnno
This X / Twitter feed might be something in which you’d possibly be interested. Most recent posts aren’t too spellbinding but there is some intriguing stuff deeper in his timeline. Interesting perspective from a place of inside knowledge.
Hi thank you for that. Unfortunately I'm not a member so all you get to see from outside is random posts over the last 12 months. I'll stay out of the US culture wars heading into the election, and just stick with my boat watching.
This isn’t the stuff of confected and insipid culture wars. I’ll try and link anything he might post that might be interesting.
For sure, do that, it will help see the most recent stuff. They did repost an LA newspaper article that white drivers were causing pollution that was breathed by POC in LA which is it's own form of insane, because POC in LA are also driving cars whose particulates are breathed by white people. That's a reason to go electric I guess :)
Now elections: Finland has gone to the polls recently, and gone hawkish on Russia apparently
It's interesting he mentions ethnic Russians in Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania - Putin has also been mentioning them in recent speeches. It's got a very 'Sudetenland Germans' feel to it, as per my post up thread. All happening in real time.
Hi Velocityjohnno
This is typical of his walk and talk presentation style and the type of insight he can be relied upon to provide. I’ll let you uncover who his is and the nature of his profession which allows for such insight if you are interested. Rest assured that the some of his geopolitical knowledge can be intriguing and resets how you consider global events.
https://x.com/StuartM22290489/status/1748687614490665468?s=20
Definitive guide to the Color Revolution ( US spelling)
You may like this Johnno. Particularly in light of how the US state department et al has now turned their attention to domestic population.
https://x.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1752161633210704129?s=20
BTW….if you are not on X you are not receiving a complete picture of world events. I seriously recommend you join. The last ( nearly) uncensored independent news source contributed and collated from a vast network of individuals that are neither beholden nor hamstrung by commercial or state control.
classic... whitehouse cyber security expert sings like a bird...
the whitehouse (self) wedgy revealed
BREAKING VIDEO: Top White House Cyber Official tells O’Keefe in Disguise “they can't say it publicly” the White House wants to replace Kamala Harris and Confirms President @JoeBiden mental decline: “Biden is definitely slowing down.”
— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) January 31, 2024
“I'm just telling you what I've heard…… pic.twitter.com/75Wdw03DHs
Who are the elite, how do they perpetuate themselves in a complex world and how different are their views from the majority?
A survey paints the picture of a small cohort with remarkably consistent views who populate the halls of power. Ivy league Universities, inherited wealth, inter marriage, insulation by wealth + some infusion of new blood from the new rich and ambitious upstart Clinton and Obama type pokitical newbies keeps it all rolling.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elite-1-percent-behind-cultural-civi...
A big self perpetuating "club". You ain't in it.
The ruling elite club are so deeply infused with hubris, past glories and lack of understanding of new realities that their decision making in the current geopolitical and economic world is often very flawed.
But they roll the dice anyway with the highest of stakes.
Judge by the recent fruit on the tree.
Ukraine failure, Middle East chaos, Europe in decline etc.
sypkan wrote:classic... whitehouse cyber security expert sings like a bird...
the whitehouse (self) wedgy revealed
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1752786076320600511
I remember the last video from this clown.
frog
Tyler @ Zero does an incredible job of hosting a great site .
A bloody machine .
Always 2 bearish imho .
The Western Elite have gone Crazy Woke , for a Start !
They have the Power atm , and believe they are really helping !
They have forgotten , we don't want their help on so many issues THEY hold dear .
Eg Boarder Security / Immigration / Globalisation .
The article was very interesting frog !
More of a Statistical Elite , perhaps ?
Hard 2 argue with his numbers .
The Actual Elite's believe , EXACTLY the same , but would have minions do their posting and are a bit older .
They Control the Western Worlds media , 2 .
Like a Powerful Family , always telling us what to do and how WE want 2 live .
There was an Old Family that RAN Florence during the Dark ages .
A new family challenged them and they knocked them OFF their pedestal .
The House of Medici turned the Lights back on and left a lasting legacy .
Changed the World .
We need another Renaissance and will get 1 , 4 sure .
The O'Keefe video could have a fake person , BUT , it doesn't matter .
We can all see it's true , either way .
frog wrote:Who are the elite, how do they perpetuate themselves in a complex world and how different are their views from the majority?
A survey paints the picture of a small cohort with remarkably consistent views who populate the halls of power. Ivy league Universities, inherited wealth, inter marriage, insulation by wealth + some infusion of new blood from the new rich and ambitious upstart Clinton and Obama type pokitical newbies keeps it all rolling.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elite-1-percent-behind-cultural-civi...
A big self perpetuating "club". You ain't in it.
The ruling elite club are so deeply infused with hubris, past glories and lack of understanding of new realities that their decision making in the current geopolitical and economic world is often very flawed.
But they roll the dice anyway with the highest of stakes.
Judge by the recent fruit on the tree.
Ukraine failure, Middle East chaos, Europe in decline etc.
frog, do you really buy into this? Do you accept the parameters presented here for the "Elite 1%"?
Roadkill wrote:sypkan wrote:classic... whitehouse cyber security expert sings like a bird...
the whitehouse (self) wedgy revealed
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1752786076320600511
I remember the last video from this clown.
and... to my knowledge, phizer still have not confirmed or denied whether that guy was a phizer employee... with even our abc media watch saying this is just odd, and would be an easy way to shut down the so called 'conspiracy'...
a very very easy way one would think...
now why haven't they done that I wonder?
… no $uch thing as ‘con$piracy’
- just $ecurity, and $trategy ;)
U$$A
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… and the pentagon recently failed its 6th audit in a row
- the lack of transparency and accountability
… hallmarks of decency, justice, democracy ;)
Or just $ecurity and $trategy
- more war ;);)
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frog wrote:Who are the elite, how do they perpetuate themselves in a complex world and how different are their views from the majority?
A survey paints the picture of a small cohort with remarkably consistent views who populate the halls of power. Ivy league Universities, inherited wealth, inter marriage, insulation by wealth + some infusion of new blood from the new rich and ambitious upstart Clinton and Obama type pokitical newbies keeps it all rolling.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/elite-1-percent-behind-cultural-civi...
A big self perpetuating "club". You ain't in it.
The ruling elite club are so deeply infused with hubris, past glories and lack of understanding of new realities that their decision making in the current geopolitical and economic world is often very flawed.
But they roll the dice anyway with the highest of stakes.
Judge by the recent fruit on the tree.
Ukraine failure, Middle East chaos, Europe in decline etc.
That was a very interesting post frog, and it explains the feeling we might have that the politics of a nation doesn't run in the interest of the lay people living in a nation.
It was about what a polling group found:
"While doing their two weekly national surveys, Rasmussen and his team noticed an anomaly. Out of every 1,000 or so respondents, there would always be three or four who were far more radical than everyone else. After several months of finding these unusual responses, Rasmussen realized they all shared three characteristics.
The radical responses came from people who had graduate degrees (not just graduate studies), family incomes above $150,000 a year, and lived in large cities (more than 10,000 people per zip code).
When Rasmussen aggregated the responses from more than 20 surveys, he realized these people made up a unique elite 1 percent.
He then did a national survey of only people with these characteristics – and found some astonishing results. He briefed me and our team on the findings – and joined me on Newt’s World to talk about it further.
When all other voters gave President Joe Biden a 41 percent job approval, the elite 1 percent rated him at 82 percent approval.
The elite 1 percent are surprisingly young. Sixty-seven percent are between 35 and 54 years old. They are 86 percent white. Almost half of them (47 percent) favor “Sanders-like policies.” They are overwhelmingly Democrats (73 percent).
The gap between the elite 1 percent and the rest of America is startling. While 57 percent of all voters say there is not enough individual freedom in America, 47 percent of the elite 1 percent say there is too much freedom. If you ask the section of the group that is politically obsessed (people who talk politics every day), 69 percent say there is too much individual freedom in America.
Given this, it’s not surprising that the elite 1 percent have great faith in government. Some 70 percent trust government to do the right thing most of the time.
Rasmussen said that this project has revealed the scariest single polling number he has seen in nearly 35 years of studying popular opinion. According to his data, 35 percent of the elite 1 percent (and 69 percent of the politically obsessed elite 1 percent) said they would rather cheat than lose a close election. Among average Americans, 93 percent reject cheating and accept defeat in an honest election. Only 7 percent reported they would cheat."
To the question of whether your would believe that, would you believe that particular polling group, have they a good, long term record in political polling? I don't know but I've heard the name.
Prior to our Voice referrendum, we had Bob Birrell announcing a huge split between graduate and non-graduate votes, which implied the possibility of a Trump/Brexit style revolt.
It's incredibly interesting to see such a chasm in interest between those at the levers of policy and the rest of the society.
Here is Rasmussen's own link for the follow up study:
https://www.rmgresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Elite-One-Percent...
And further:
"To illustrate the scale of the gap between the elite 1 percent and the rest of the country, consider the elite 1 percent’s views on climate issues (and understand that these ideas are opposed by 63 percent to 83 percent of most Americans).
77 percent of the elite 1 percent would like to impose strict restrictions and rationing on the private use of gas, meat, and electricity.
72 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning gas powered vehicles.
69 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning gas stoves.
58 percent of the elite 1 percent favor of banning sport utility vehicles.
55 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning non-essential air travel.
53 percent of the elite 1 percent favor banning private air conditioning.
As Rasmussen noted, the degree to which the elite 1 percent think their views represent those of the average American is astonishing."
Good luck to banning air conditioning in a Perth summer!
velocityjohnno, before you get too excited, let's break it down.
So, every time the bloke conducted a poll there would be "3 or 4" people with wildly different views to everyone else. When he looked at the common traits this group of 3 or 4 held he found that:
1. They lived in a area populated by more than 10,000 people.
2. They had graduate degrees.
3. They had a combined household income of or above $150k
I would suggest that the 3 or 4 people are definite outliers in the poll. The article itself states this.
How would this group of 3 or 4 have an influence on any of the above mentioned issues? Again, the article states this group makes up 1% of the sample size (it's actually 0.4% but hey, not as catchy).
Is it interesting because they have chosen to use the word "elite" and claim that this 3 or 4 people out of every 1,000 polled are actually "driving forces behind the destructive radicalism which is pushing us into a cultural civil war." How? What influence do they exert? How have Zero Hedge arrived at this conclusion with the information they have?
Great way to pour petrol on an already out of control dumpster fire though.
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