All Things Religion Thread

Thanks Indo , very helpful information .

I have been looking around and WILL now say , "The Flood" was NO Fable .

There could have been more than 1 , 2 .

No idea about Noah .

Atlantis , was probably Real .

The Pyramids MIGHT B 4-5000 Year Older than dated ?

The Egyptians had maps of North America , hundreds of Years before Columbus .

Maybe we should have a More Open Mind , regarding some of these OLD Stories .

It does sound ALL a bit miraclly , imho .

Most could be Like , a nice Old Wives Tale !

I take careful note of them , 2 !

Pop Down wrote:

My first Old board was pretty good , at the time , but , eventually I needed a New one .

I still Loved my Old board and it served me very well , so I kept it .

I love my NEW board , even more .

Think about THAT Burleigh and try and NOT to make it a conundrum ffs !

Very simple story and a Good One 2 .

Go Opti !

There are quite a few Guys who come onto this thread Searching 4 ways , 2 make Others , second guess their Faith .

LOL - Guys U are the One's Who are Searching !!!

Opit has FOUND his Home !

He is trying 2B a beautiful Big Lighthouse , shinning HIS Light , 2 show U , where 2 Find Your Safe haven !

And U bag him , BUT Opti always turns the other cheek ( never cheeky either ) .

I really LOVE Lighthouses !!!

So a bible is like a surfboard?

First you love it, but then it snaps?

I am going surfing somewhere on Sunday , a bit of an Everest 4 Me , Burleigh and have a New board .

Both the board and I will B tested , we both could snap ( I could die ) BUT , neither of US will be Broken , beyond repair .

This Stuff happens Every Day to All people , it's not a Conundrum , mate .

Its the Simple Stuff of Life , that Opi gets much better than I do .

My trip to the Maldives with my daughters was cancelled .

So ,we are going 2 Hawaii , looks like I will C a Sun Set @ Sunset , 4 the 1st Time in my life .

Thats another bloody Miracle lol !

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As I am so bloody slow and blind , I found yesterday Swellnets North Shore Forecast .

It is Great and surf looks really small .

Yesterday there were 6 out @ Sunset and going off 6-9' ffs ( killer stuff ) , no one out this morning and smaller .

The Hawaiians are Very Choosey , at this time of the year , apparently .

As I haven't travelled since the Time of Noah , I am not thinking about surfing , much .

As I am travelling by Myself ( girls coming a week later )and have organised ALL the Details , I reckon I will B fn lucky to even GET 2 Hawaii !

So , no use worrying about fn Sunset bloody Sunday !

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SHIT , IF any Black Short Guys are on SN and I have STUFFED Up with a Surf Spot Reference , gosh , I am soooo sorry and will Pop Down , again !

I am going 2 Blame it on the Burly , perhaps ?

Clear as mud Pop

After Abraham’s life, a man who knew God and guided his people as best he could, the Israelis were invited to live in Egypt by Joseph and went from guests to eventual slaves under hard bondage. They were there 400 years and built a lot of the Egyptian monuments we see today under the whip.
This is where Moses came in. He was an adopted prince in Egypt but struggled when he found out he was actually a Jewish kid rescued after a decree by pharaoh to kill all the Jewish baby boys as they still prospered even under slavery.
Moses then eventually becomes the leader taking 2 million people out of Egypt and the written lawgiver from Gods own hand.
These first laws called the ten commands became the basis of the Torah which is also called the Pentateuch or the first 5 books of the bible.
The rest of the Old Testament is pretty much a walk through history with the main theme throughout “ the messiah is coming”. The bible is really the messiah is coming or the messiah has been….old covenant….new covenant.
Lots of sundry laws and rules were laid upon the Israelis to keep them busy with religious chores to keep them focused and eyes off the surrounding nations who were into all kinds of weird idolatry , sexuality and child sacrifice etc etc.
They would eventually take Canaan from the canaanites who were into acts above and the land canaan came from Noah’s grandson Canaan son of Ham…
You can google the territories of the sons of Noah and every culture on earth knows the story.
This land Canaan became the land of Israel with the capital Jerusalem around 1500 bc. Or around 3500 years ago. This land included a much larger landmass than they have now including Gaza. All this info is available on britannica etc.
The Old Testament doesn’t sugar coat the highs and very lows Israel went through. Their own rebellion against God cost them their freedom at times especially when God was sick of them and let the babylonians take them for 70 years to teach them a lesson about drifting sideways and following false gods and decadent practises…
This is also a warning to modern societies like the USA….once knew God now rebel against God. The corruption there at present is staggering…Look at their corrupt leadership…. They even sacrifice and abort children ‘late term ‘ for money,
convenience and spare parts….sound familiar…
History usually repeats….
Anyway the Old Testament is life under the law and a history book as well as constantly pointing to the coming of the Christ…The old deal.
The New Testament or ‘covenant ‘ is the age of grace, the Christ has come and the law is no longer a written code but one written on the hearts of men to follow God naturally as one of His own. It’s a spirit thing not a legal one… The New deal.
I hope that helps explain it a bit better.

A Covenant written after the Graceful Christ , NO longer written on Paper , but written on the Hearts of women and men to follow , sounds so cool and personal Opti !

I like it a lot !

I know my Heart get things , better than my head or mouth .

Thanks mate , some stuff to reflect on .

Pop, you need to change your SN name to google.

Pop and Opti’s bromance is pretty wild

goofyfoot wrote:

Pop and Opti’s bromance is pretty wild

The only two people to understand each others dribble.

You seem to be here a lot for a non believer.

Gday U nice Optimist

Burleigh is floating around this thread , searching 4 something .

I have an Spiritual idea 4U , that might help him .

I suggested 2 an IT Guru mate about 2 years ago to Build a Artificial Intelligence God App 2 help kids come UP with their OWN Version of a God , THEY like .

A lovely voice asks the right questions and the Child can Pick , or Make Up , a Lovely Good religion .

My mate has had long enough , 2 incubate the suggestion .

Can you think about Organising ( with your Big Guy ) , this App 4 Burleigh .

I can't imagine the God that Burls will create , a big beautiful , Windmill , perhaps ?

A Windmill that Never gets Old and needs replacing .

The God Windmill will also chug out electricity , 24/7 .

It will B a miracle !

What DO U Believe , Burleigh ?

Pop Down wrote:

Gday U nice Optimist

Burleigh is floating around this thread , searching 4 something .

I have an Spiritual idea 4U , that might help him .

I suggested 2 an IT Guru mate about 2 years ago to Build a Artificial Intelligence God App 2 help kids come UP with their OWN Version of a God , THEY like .

A lovely voice asks the right questions and the Child can Pick , or Make Up , a Lovely Good religion .

My mate has had long enough , 2 incubate the suggestion .

Can you think about Organising ( with your Big Guy ) , this App 4 Burleigh .

I can't imagine the God that Burls will create , a big beautiful , Windmill , perhaps ?

A Windmill that Never gets Old and needs replacing .

The God Windmill will also chug out electricity , 24/7 .

It will B a miracle !

What DO U Believe , Burleigh ?

I believe us humans go the same place other (less intelligent) mammals go……nowhere

As much as I would like to have faith, the hard truth is that it’s just a made up fantasy by humans to one day again meet their loved ones.

Or maybe a happy place you believe you will go because you’re scared of death yourself.

I understand how you get sucked in.

Fair point and opinion Burleigh…and your opinion is respected….
…if that is the hard truth….but if it isn’t and you’re a bit curious and honest about the outcome whatever that may be..….you'll end up where many of us already are….at the foot of the cross.

burleigh wrote:

Pop Down wrote:

Gday U nice Optimist

Burleigh is floating around this thread , searching 4 something .

I have an Spiritual idea 4U , that might help him .

I suggested 2 an IT Guru mate about 2 years ago to Build a Artificial Intelligence God App 2 help kids come UP with their OWN Version of a God , THEY like .

A lovely voice asks the right questions and the Child can Pick , or Make Up , a Lovely Good religion .

My mate has had long enough , 2 incubate the suggestion .

Can you think about Organising ( with your Big Guy ) , this App 4 Burleigh .

I can't imagine the God that Burls will create , a big beautiful , Windmill , perhaps ?

A Windmill that Never gets Old and needs replacing .

The God Windmill will also chug out electricity , 24/7 .

It will B a miracle !

What DO U Believe , Burleigh ?

I believe us humans go the same place other (less intelligent) mammals go……nowhere

As much as I would like to have faith, the hard truth is that it’s just a made up fantasy by humans to one day again meet their loved ones.

Or maybe a happy place you believe you will go because you’re scared of death yourself.

I understand how you get sucked in.

Why do you feel compelled to comment in here then lol

https://m.

Jellyguys back, and still without a personal opinion on is there life after death? and are there other life forms in the universe?…..nope…just you tube.

Optimist wrote:

Jellyguys back, and still without a personal opinion on is there life after death?

Is there life before birth?

Hey Burls

I expect I will end up at the same gate as the least intelligent Bug .

Have always done things that could kill me , 2 .

The same Forces and atoms , that are In our Trees and in Me , will still be Flying around , crashing into each other , Long After I kick the bucket .

I am inquisitive and have NFI but am Feeling a bit more spiritual , as I get closer to the proverbial Pearly Gate .

I sure hope ,I have more plus's than minuses 2 , IF I find it .

I really hate hot humidity , especially if there is no surf , sounds like Hell imho !

"If Triangles had a God , he would have three sides " - Montesquieu .

Don't be a square and Think about that , Burls :)

"Shit Happens on a Saturday " - 7th Day Adventist .

Bon Chance and if U work any out , let US All know , please !

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I agree with soggy , IF there is a Heaven and Hell , its all around US NOW on Mother Earth .

She is a big part of IT , 2 imho .

Ha the question of heaven and hell. I believe both are more tangible than we’d expect. Meaning they both exist here on earth, and especially if you live somewhere like I do, heaven is attainable. I have a good job, my wife loves me, I always have fun with my daughter, there’s food on the table and as long as we’re happy supportive and loving…..thats heaven.
In contrast, if you want to know what hell on this earth may be, ask a child living in Gaza under Bibi (Satan) Heaven ain’t some place in the sky after your dead. It could quite easily be here on earth as we live. It’s up to us.

That’s just what I think.

Had a glimpse of God once on shrooms, and another after nearly dying once.
Reckon there is something bigger than us going on, but organized religions aren't it. Jesus was a Buddhist in my book.
Peace.....

Yep @ soggy with you. My karma from past life must have been good, I've had a fortunate blessed life mainly....

Me too, I couldn't be anymore blessed.

But. I don't want for much and I'm easily pleased.

Nice post Soggy. What more do you need.

Is there life before birth is an interesting thought.
From a Christian perspective the bible says “ I knew you before you were born”….in saying that He seems to be saying I planned your birth and prepared a spirit for your body . I suppose if your eternal , the time line isn’t relevant…past present and future are visible to God.
My personal belief is that God gives a spirit with a personality and then the child when born is a product of their environment and upbringing and I’m sure also with some intervention from God Himself at times….so maybe there is a life before birth.

Pop Down wrote:

Hey Burls

I expect I will end up at the same gate as the least intelligent Bug .

Have always done things that could kill me , 2 .

The same Forces and atoms , that are In our Trees and in Me , will still be Flying around , crashing into each other , Long After I kick the bucket .

I am inquisitive and have NFI but am Feeling a bit more spiritual , as I get closer to the proverbial Pearly Gate .

I sure hope ,I have more plus's than minuses 2 , IF I find it .

I really hate hot humidity , especially if there is no surf , sounds like Hell imho !

"If Triangles had a God , he would have three sides " - Montesquieu .

Don't be a square and Think about that , Burls :)

"Shit Happens on a Saturday " - 7th Day Adventist .

Bon Chance and if U work any out , let US All know , please !

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I agree with soggy , IF there is a Heaven and Hell , its all around US NOW on Mother Earth .

She is a big part of IT , 2 imho .

So you believe that every living being ends up in the same place?
90+ billion land animals are killed every year for food alone. It will be fucking chokas. lol

Love it @soggy, wrote a rant, as I'm wont to do, but you said it all ; )
(never-ending BBQ in heaven, @burls)

basesix wrote:

Love it @soggy, wrote a rant, as I'm wont to do, but you said it all ; )
(never-ending BBQ in heaven, @burls)

So you're saying there will be SO many bbq's that it will look like a burning hell?

yeh, but it will smell soooo goooood... fowever and ever..

basesix wrote:

yeh, but it will smell soooo goooood... fowever and ever..

Is there beer?

Do the animals come through the same gate at the humans? Be a big line to get in

aqueducts for the seals and dugongs, dr suess angel crest freeways, linear jogging-paths, conveyor belts for those maimed or infirmed at the hour of death. But no, andy.. 0.0 I'm afraid bwahahahaha...

Do they grow poppy and coca plants? That might make it fun if you can’t have beer

soggydog wrote:

Ha the question of heaven and hell. I believe both are more tangible than we’d expect. Meaning they both exist here on earth, and especially if you live somewhere like I do, heaven is attainable. I have a good job, my wife loves me, I always have fun with my daughter, there’s food on the table and as long as we’re happy supportive and loving…..thats heaven.
In contrast, if you want to know what hell on this earth may be, ask a child living in Gaza under Bibi (Satan) Heaven ain’t some place in the sky after your dead. It could quite easily be here on earth as we live. It’s up to us.

That’s just what I think.

Nice soggy

burleigh wrote:

Do they grow poppy and coca plants? That might make it fun if you can’t have beer

Ice baths?

opium den overlooking the wavepool? get the giggles then the nods. why not!
actually, we're probably being glib in the thread titled 'ALL THINGS religion'
rather than respecting 1 or 2 very narrow (and conflicting) views.
Opti? Any drugs? Ice Baths? Sorry, we're a bit loose after no margs..

Is it modern? Or is it like going back in time when the dinosaurs were denied entry to the ark?

fwooo.. out of my knowledge area.. I do know that when sheldon asked roseanne's sister what the lions ate on noah's magical zoo boat, she answered 'the floating bodies of dead heathens', and I laughed, so that must be true..
ummm.. maybe dinosaurs are in the old testament, the one ashsam doesn't believe in?
Or it's that 'the devil tricks us by making our world look like it does' thing.. Opti?

The bible says that earth is approx 6000 years old.
But Aboriginal Australians lived around 60,000+ years ago.

Who’s lying?

just a decimal misunderstanding. they agree now, I believe.

Oh My Stars

I thought we were getting Burls 2 Open his imagination and look what happens , after popping off for a sec .

Had him thinking we ALL aren't just a piece of Universe Shit and maybe , things could B a bit Special .

When I left , he was an intelligent Mammal !

F Me , he thinks he is a fn T rex and wants a Gig on Noah's nice Arc now , ffs .

Burly , what I think is small is often Big ( like a Dino ) is small ( like a Bug ) .

What often Feels Big , is more like a Bug ie Small .

Look Up at the Stars and its amazing .

Look at one of Blackers close ups of a flower , is just as amazing .

Mud is sometimes clear and Clear is sometimes Mud .

Life has two sides , like a coin .

Are U happy with my response and its Clear , or Unhappy , as U are seeing Mud , again .

Its sure getting Clearer 2 me , I think , nearly !

So , Burleigh , U and I are either a piece of Shit on the Planet , or a Special Part of the Universe .

Whatever U decide , is OK with Me ?

Cheers !

This current civilisation is around 6.000 years old. ..dunno before that.
This if your educated also works with all the population growth algorithms.
I think it’s a disgrace that so called experts say 60,000 years for aboriginal people and the reason is that they think they weren’t capable of building a boat and were a part of the split of the land bridge.between Australia and New Guinea..
I think they were more than capable of boating across the Torres straight.
They were different but not dumb and very capable of boating seeing as they got all the way from Africa the long way round….think your smart …maybe not.

basesix wrote:

aqueducts for the seals and dugongs, dr suess angel crest freeways, linear jogging-paths, conveyor belts for those maimed or infirmed at the hour of death. But no, andy.. 0.0 I'm afraid bwahahahaha...

I'm going to hell where they serve Great Northern!
Is it really beer?

Hey Burls, how come you're logical about the bible but you're not logical about vaccinations?

basesix wrote:

opium den overlooking the wavepool? get the giggles then the nods. why not!
actually, we're probably being glib in the thread titled 'ALL THINGS religion'
rather than respecting 1 or 2 very narrow (and conflicting) views.
Opti? Any drugs? Ice Baths? Sorry, we're a bit loose after no margs..

Come on, if heaven DMT .. the spirit molecule!

Andy M

I wonder Why U are So Illogical , nearly always .

What DO U believe about Heaven and Hell Oh Illogical One ??

I am dyeing 2 know , Guru of Nothing much .

Whatever U Believe , will show me the Truth , I reckon haha .

Whatever U say , will be Wrong , as U mostly are .

U Don't even know when the Truth Lion has bit you bum re covid .

You seem a bit numbed , thinking wise ( how many times were U Shot mate and where did they Jab U , not the Cranium ?? )

AndyM wrote:

Hey Burls, how come you're logical about the bible but you're not logical about vaccinations?

lol, he’s not, just likes stirring the pot, but you could be onto something. Maybe only the unvaxed go to heaven?
Joking, know lots even family members that are Christian’s that got vaxed.
Imo was disappointing Churches didn’t stand up against all the BS, know some that left churches because of it.
Interesting the bishop that was stabbed by a Muslim was antivax and anti lockdowns etc

Burls you should go follow him ha ha.

The dinosaurs turned up in thongs, that's why they were denied entry

Why did god put the male g-spot up the back door?

Seems like a design fault according to the bible

Optimist wrote:

This current civilisation is around 6.000 years old.

So aboriginal Australian are not part of this civilisation?

Pop Down wrote:

Andy M

I wonder Why U are So Illogical , nearly always .

What DO U believe about Heaven and Hell Oh Illogical One ??

I am dyeing 2 know , Guru of Nothing much .

Whatever U Believe , will show me the Truth , I reckon haha .

Whatever U say , will be Wrong , as U mostly are .

U Don't even know when the Truth Lion has bit you bum re covid .

You seem a bit numbed , thinking wise ( how many times were U Shot mate and where did they Jab U , not the Cranium ?? )

Hahaha, Jesus Christ!

Opti & pop down on here:

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A Pastor I know in a big Hillsong church in the NT resigned cause was told had to be vaxed.
AndyM you could go there Christian vaxers lol.